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Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:36 pm

Just curious how many of you pass on shots at deer on public land. I never used to, but now I'll try to take a few doe for the freezer, and then wait for a decent buck, letting fawns,does, 18 month old and even some 2-1/2 year old bucks walk, even on public areas.

Anyone else practice this kind of bastardized QDM when hunting public land?

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Waiting4Fall on Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:55 pm

As a meat hunter, I'm an equal opportunity killer! Yearling doe, or an 8 point, if it's in range I'm gonna try to kill it! I went thru that selective phase where I passed up shot opportunities, waiting for something bigger. After 2 years of that, and an empty freezer, I said the heck with that. I'd much rather have meat in the freezer, than antlers on the wall. But that's just me, to each his own.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by tntom on Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:00 pm

I don't pass on deer I don't get that many shots so when I do I take the shot. But if people want to pass on young deer good for you that's a good thing to do.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Pinch Point on Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:12 pm

I do try to pass on smaller bucks I feel, that if I want the meat I will take a doe. How ever thing year I am deer less after passing two spikes, no does in range thus far. Its really up to the individual.
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Posted Boy Gallego on Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:42 pm

No, but like Pinch Point said, it is really up to the Individual and also environment matters. Where I go, big woods, low deer numbers, you just do not have the privelage of passing something up. You may see 1 deer in 10 sits and that would be a good day. Granted, I might be setting up wrong, but I do move around to fresh sign. I wish I had Slowbo come up here to scout this out with me and just see what he comes up with. Maybe I am going at it entirely wrong and just do not even know since I hunt alone and have nobody to be another pair of eyes on the mountain with me.
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:55 pm

Sometimes it takes years and years to develop knowledge of an area and find the sweet spots that will pay off every year. Toss in the "public" and they can disappear quickly, only takes one guy hunting the wrong wind a few times to kill a great spot. Just keep going back and getting abused, that's how you learn it. Going to put my scouting to the test in a week or so, spend a few days on unfamiliar ground to shoot an in season scouting video. No, I wont be passing on deer on this hunt, it's going to be a back to basics take a shot if I get it hunt, doe, spike, 12 point, watch out!

After that though, I'll probably go back to waiting for a good 'un.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by NanookOdaNorth on Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:33 pm

Sometimes, just not today!


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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Pinch Point on Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:56 pm

Nice one. Congrats !!!
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Post by SlowBow on Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:09 pm

Nice!

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Posted Boy Gallego on Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:46 pm

Can't wait to see your next videos on this new scouting and hunting Slowbow.
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:59 pm

Don't bug me out dude! I'm really nervous about this idea. I really want it to come together, and I don't want to over-think it. Going to a spot I have never set foot on before, during the peak of the hard pre-rut, and try to scout it in season, while filming, and take a deer.

The wife is already pissed, I just dropped this on her out of the blue, she wasn't planning on me being away except for the weekend. We'll see how it goes.

In the meantime, I'm almost finished with our next video. It's a short private land hunt, but the end is what I think you'll want to watch. I twisted Michael's arm, and he came over and filmed the making of his secret recipe Rosemary Tenderloins. The stuff is THE BOMB. You all have to give this one a try. Should have it posted to the website in a few days after I finish the edit. Stop by the website, and link through and like our facebook page and you'll be notified as soon as I post it to the site!

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Posted Boy Gallego on Tue Oct 29, 2013 2:30 pm

Haha, don't worry if you take a deer or not. I'm looking forward to the video either way, deer or no deer at the end of it.
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Saxton on Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:02 pm

I have passed plenty of deer on public OH property; looking for a big one.

I just do not get it, I see pleny of 1.5 to 2.5 year old  basket rack bucks.  One would think that all of the one I have passed would now be shooters.

Well I am sure they are........somewhere.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:53 pm

Hey, just wanted to let everyone know I got the video, Rosemary Tenderloins posted with the venison tenderloin recipe. While it's not a Public Land hunt, I sure hope your hunting provides some meat so you can try it. It's really good!!! You can see it now for free at our website http://www.camochairproductions.com/now-playing.html be sure and give it a try, even if you have to go out and (cough) buy some tenderloins this fall.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:50 pm

Well, my trip to the un-hunted area didn't work out so well for me. I spent a whole day scouting, filming the plan. Found a few great looking spots, fresh sign scrapes, rubs, droppings, saw a few deer. Headed in in the morning, got within fifty yards of my tree, and the woods exploded. Sounded like a heard of elephants taking off up the mountain. Spent the rest of the day in stand not seeing a thing.Crying or Very sad Got a little rain coming through, then it's back into the woods for me. See ya on the other side!
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by TradbowInOregon on Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:25 pm

I don't pass on deer as the unit I hunt is one deer only. Meaning buck, doe or fawn and right now I am still after my first.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by Guest on Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:29 am

YES. We do something similar to SlowBow's formula on most of the land we hunt. A few differences -- one we shoot females any age and one of the first things we do is put binoculars on em so we can single out buttons and avoid shooting them by accident. For bucks we like "higher & wider" than the ears which usually puts the deer in the 3 !/2 range - sometimes a good 2 1/2 but in all cases small basket 8s and down we let walk. It is difficult sometimes to judge properly and let a good looking buck walk. We get plenty of venison from does so the freezer is not empty due to being selective. I go back and forth all the time in my head whether to shoot the lead doe or the smallest doe wondering which is best for the remaining deer??? So I end up shooting both taking my best broadside in the 10 to 15 yd distance. I shoot very well out to 25 but rarely shoot that far (this year 1 out of 5) all others under 15. We hunt public land peidmont NC - WV Bow Zone - GA Blackbeard - and some trash powerline stuff inside my city limits where I live - This version of QDM has worked extremely well for us. Mentioned was when you pass you don't see them again which is true for several reasons part of which is old bucks are smart and it takes a whole different approach to see them specifically - I think they are there in many cases and cameras confirm this. I do think passing bucks will help you grow and shoot better bucks. I also believe leaving little bucks out there increases overall hunt quality since it helps push deer around in daylight and can get older bucks moving when they see little 6s running their does Smile
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by SlowBow on Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:02 am

Let this 18 month old 7 point have a pass today at about 12 yards. He'll be putting in an appearance in our next video about in season scouting for deer on public land.
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Post by tpcowfish on Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:42 am

Pass on mostly does with young, and smaller bucks, but do not judge what others shoot, especially with a bow, sometimes its fun just to watch , might be a little less picky now , since switching over to a recurve, but time in the woods has been little, do to some family stuff,

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by bowonly on Fri Nov 15, 2013 11:24 am

Typically only where antler restrictions are in place.
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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by hoyt on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:48 pm

Sometimes..another thing I like about hunting public land only..no extra rules..on the National Forest I hunt anyway.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by illianabowhnter67 on Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:40 pm

We have a 4pts on one side rule where I hunt.So small bucks get a pass.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by hoyt on Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:26 am

I passed this buck up a few yrs back the first day of gun season in Shawnee National Forest, Il., but when he walked up the second day I changed my mind.


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Post by Parkersdad on Tue Nov 26, 2013 3:19 pm

I used to shoot everyting that walks. Now I pass on a lot of deer. I shoot one to fill the freezer and get it out of my system early season and then I start being choosy.

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by iamsam68 on Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:05 am

I do not see anything wrong with either now. I used to shoot everything but now I wait, and thought everyone should wait. I know that I do see far more deer now that I wait though. Seemed when I shot the first deer that came into range I would not see one there again for weeks. By letting them go spots tend to stay hot longer and you get a better idea of what is out there. WI has been giving out all the free doe tags you could want for a number of years in my dmu. They even went so far as to make people shoot a doe to earn a tag to shoot a buck (just to get buck only hunters to shoot does). There was two 4 day doe only gun hunts, our regular 9 day gun hunt, and a two week "holiday" gun hunt. I thought this would decimate the deer herds on the public land. I have found that it did lower it a bit on the "fringe" deer but if you are away from the parking lot there are still a ton of deer. Knowing that the dnr has tried everything to reduce the population and it is not having a much of an impact on the deer herd, I no longer worry about what people shoot. I used to walk by hunters with fawns or small bucks and think just 2 or 3 more years and that would have been a great deer. Now I stop, sincerely congratulate them, offer help dragging and count my blessings that we are able to get out and enjoy hunting together.

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Post by hunt1buck on Sat Jan 04, 2014 11:54 pm

I pass on smaller deer, and does. Seems like the deer sightings are getting a lot less. Smile 

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Re: Do You Pass on Public Land Deer?

Post by whitetailwick on Mon Jan 13, 2014 1:07 am

I passed every deer this season but one. Used to shoot anything that walked by,but as i became a better hunter I see more deer now and can be more choosey.One thing, I tried the video thing and got so caught up in trying to get on film the deer was out of range before I knew it. Its all in what you want to do not what someone else thinks, its your time in the woods and thats what your there for.

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Post by SlowBow on Mon Jan 13, 2014 9:04 pm

whitetailwick wrote:I passed  every deer this season but one. Used to shoot anything that walked by,but as i became a better hunter I see more deer now and can be more choosey.One thing, I tried the video thing and got so caught up in trying to get on film the deer was out of range before I knew it. Its all in what you want to do not what someone else thinks, its your time in the woods and thats what your there for.

Yep, it does present a challenge. That camera cost me a decent 90-100 inch public land 8 point this past November. Had him dead to rights with nothing but air between me and him,standing still, looking the other way, but by the time I got the camera steady and hooked my release on the string, he walked out of my shooting lane as I raised the bow. You can see that on the In Season Scouting video posted here at the site http://www.publiclandbowhunters.com/f104-public-land-bowhunter-s-vids

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